1. Jim Gillett
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  3. Wednesday, 16 May 2018 17:55 PM UTC
We are in the early stages of creating a browser version of our client/server application via Appeon.  One of the things that Appeon does not like is our old Wintertree spellchecker.  Are there Appeon compatible spellcheckers out there that will work in both the client/server and browser environments?   I am looking for recommendations.  Thanks.
 
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  1. Tuesday, 11 September 2018 14:45 PM UTC
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Hi Chris, was wondering if there was any update on this.  I am trying to use MS Word as a spellchecker using OLE but  so far does not work in Appeon web...works fine in PowerBuilder client/server.  Thanks for any help you can give. 

Dave V.

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  1. Chris Pollach @Appeon
  2. Wednesday, 12 September 2018 14:47 PM UTC
Hi David;

Sorry for the slow reply. From what I last remember, you were going to investigate other spell checking options - so I did not pursue the WinterTree issue any further. Are you now thinking of trying to get the WinterTree product working in PowerServer again?

Regards ... Chris

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  1. David Vasconcelos
  2. Thursday, 13 September 2018 14:02 PM UTC
It would have been nice, but based on your last response that changes in powerscript may need to be done I have been trying to see if I can use MS Word, was having issues but as of yesterday I was able to finally get spellchecker using MS Word to work in PowerServer. I have to still do a bit more testing but so far it seems to be working fine. If you have any reservations on using Word let me know. It is a bit slower since the ole connection takes a few moments to happen but I think we can live with it. Dave V.
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  1. Chris Pollach @Appeon
  2. Thursday, 13 September 2018 15:51 PM UTC
OK, good luck with the OLE approach. Sounds promising.

If things change and you want me to pursue the WinterTree option again, just let me know.
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David Vasconcelos Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Monday, 23 July 2018 12:25 PM UTC
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 Thanks Chris,  would you happen to know of a spellchecker that does work in Appeon web?

Note: We have a constraint that spell checking must be done locally, cannot send verbiage to an offsite web site/process for spell checking.

 

again thanks for all your time.

Dave V.

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Chris Pollach @Appeon Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Friday, 20 July 2018 14:58 PM UTC
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Hi David;

   Yes / No ... almost. It would need some PowerScript changes for PS Web as it's looking for the spell checker DLL in the wrong location (from what I could see in my quick test).

Regards ... Chris

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David Vasconcelos Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Friday, 20 July 2018 14:47 PM UTC
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Thanks Chris,  based on your screen print it looked like you were able to get it to run since you got the license popup notification.

Dave V

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Chris Pollach @Appeon Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Thursday, 19 July 2018 18:20 PM UTC
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   Yes, that is what I get as well. Its because the PB code is looking for the DLL in the wrong location. I just haven't had the time yet to play with the Demo code to make it work.

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David Vasconcelos Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Thursday, 19 July 2018 16:50 PM UTC
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Hi Chris,

I am able to run a test app in PB native (2017) and it works.  When I convert/compile to appeon web I get

 

Please note: Jim created the app and all I did was copy it (including the dll) to my local and ran it.  I did not do any Setup which is mentioned in the instructions.  I just wanted to see if it would work without doing anything special.  I did add the DLL to the Additional File configuration but still nothing.  Any tips on how you got it to work for web, if I do need to do some sort of setup how will that effect deploying an app to the powerserver?

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David Vasconcelos Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:26 PM UTC
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Sorry Chris, I should have been more specific.  Which of the Wintertree products did you use.  They have several flavors and not sure which one would work with both Web and PB.   Thanks again for your time...Dave V.

 

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  1. Chris Pollach @Appeon
  2. Tuesday, 17 July 2018 19:35 PM UTC
Hi David;

Sorry ... I missed that aspect of your question as well. I am using the "Sentry Spelling Checker for Windows" version.

Regards ... Chris
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Chris Pollach @Appeon Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Tuesday, 17 July 2018 17:52 PM UTC
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Hi David;

  Version 5.17.1

Regards ... Chris

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David Vasconcelos Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Tuesday, 17 July 2018 17:02 PM UTC
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Thanks for the response Chris, by the way what version of wintertree were you using?

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Chris Pollach @Appeon Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Tuesday, 17 July 2018 14:07 PM UTC
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Hi David;

    Jim said that you guys had abandoned the use of the spellchecker for now. He was also looking into getting the latest release as well and said that he would post back here on the Community forum. So  I stopped playing with the WinterTree product at that point.

Regards ... Chris

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David Vasconcelos Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Tuesday, 17 July 2018 12:08 PM UTC
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Hi Chris,  I am working with Jim on the wintertree product.  Just following up to see if you had success integrating it into the appeon web?  If so does the product version you chose run in both PB 2017 and PowerServer?

 

 Thanks for your time.

Dave V

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Jim Gillett Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Tuesday, 22 May 2018 14:03 PM UTC
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Thanks Chris.

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Chris Pollach @Appeon Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Thursday, 17 May 2018 19:42 PM UTC
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Hi Jim;

  I now have the latest version from Lew at WinterTree and have deployed it for PowerServer Web. Its almost working - but, I think that I need to tweak the code a bit in the demo App. As you can see from the screen cature below, the current version is 5.17.1 ....

Regards .... Chris

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Jim Gillett Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:20 PM UTC
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Mike and Chris,

I passed along the "did you specify that dll (and related files) to be downloaded in the appeon configuration?" to our Appeon guys and maybe it is a good point.  The spellchecker problem is from an Appeon build of a few months ago.  They are not prepared to attempt another build right now to give me the current status of this problem.  Let's put my question aside for now.  If needed, I will repost in the future when I have better info.  Thank you both for responding. 

Jim

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  1. mike S
  2. Thursday, 17 May 2018 15:37 PM UTC
i did a quick look over on that dll and the options on how you can use it.   If you are using it with window handles, then it probably won't work (just a guess) with appeon web.  But if you just send in the text and get back the results then i believe it should work.  Just make sure you include that dll and any dictionary files you have in the config setup.  



As far as 'builds' go, you can simply deploy it to your testing server via file copy or ftp.  I deploy via ftp instead of using the build option as it is a lot faster to do iterations. 

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Jim Gillett Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:40 PM UTC
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Mike,

The simple answer is that it does not compile in Appeon.  I am not working with the Appeon piece and I am waiting for a more specific description from the guys that do.

Chris,

Our version of Wintertree is very old.  The dll is dated 1999.  Maybe the answer is to just buy the latest version?  At their web site they list many flavors of the spellchecker and it is a bit confusing to me.  A few days ago I submitted via "contact us" at their website explaining the problem and asking their advice.  No response yet.  If you can prod something out of them, that would be great. 

Beyond that, what are other folks doing for spellcheck that works for both PB and Appeon? 

Jim   

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mike S Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Wednesday, 16 May 2018 20:09 PM UTC
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what do you mean "doesn't like"?

did you specify that dll (and related files) to be downloaded in the appeon configuration?

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Chris Pollach @Appeon Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Wednesday, 16 May 2018 18:59 PM UTC
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Hi Jim;

       Well strange enough  ... as it turns out, the person who now owns WinterTree is an X-boss of mine (Lew Shepherdson) and a close neighbour of mine just down the road where I live. If you like, I can check with him and see if it is possible to adapt the WinterTree software for browser use.

Regards ... Chris

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  1. Matthew Balent
  2. Thursday, 17 May 2018 11:35 AM UTC
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  1. Jim Gillett
  2. Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:38 PM UTC
Mike,



The simple answer is that it does not compile in Appeon.  I am not working with the Appeon piece and I am waiting for a more specific description from the guys that do.



Chris,



Our version of Wintertree is very old.  The dll is dated 1999.  Maybe the answer is to just buy the latest version?  At their web site they list many flavors of the spellchecker and it is a bit confusing to me.  A few days ago I submitted via "contact us" at their website explaining the problem and asking their advice.  No response yet.  If you can prod something out of them, that would be great. 



Beyond that, what are other folks doing for spellcheck that works for both PB and Appeon? 



Jim   



 

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  1. Chris Pollach @Appeon
  2. Thursday, 17 May 2018 13:51 PM UTC
Hi JIm;



   I am already in contact with Lew. Looks like they have some other variations as well that might work. I am investigating. I will ask Lew about the version of WinterTree for you as well.  For example .. they now have a JavaScript version.



Talk soon.



Regards ... Chris

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