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Resolved Incremental vs Full build

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  1. Gastón Clara
    Gastón Clara
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  3. Friday, 11 October 2024 08:32 AM UTC

Hi,

 

In my company we were running PB 2022 R2 since it was released. We have a large structure of PBLs interconnected one with the others. We have the Core, Framework and application specific PBLs. Furthermore, we are using PBAutobuild in order to deploy all applications using Incremental builds in order to save time.

Couple of weeks ago, an issue come into my plate. While trying to reproduce it, it was impossible to me to do it from the IDE. The error never happens, but when I run it from the EXE file, it happens all the time.  So, try to find the root cause is, at least, very difficult. My suspicion is that it's something related to memory usage and object inheritance.

My questions are the following: why do we get different results when we run from the IDE, having done an incremental or a full deployment? Should we "distrust" an incremental and always opt for a full one?
Before using PBAutobuild, with PowerGen, deploying all our applications has taken up to 6 hours. Now, with the incremental one we are around 1 hour. I think the interest in the incremental one is more than evident.

Thank you very much for any information you can provide me.

 

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Armeen Mazda @Appeon
Armeen Mazda @Appeon Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Friday, 11 October 2024 14:51 PM UTC
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When you do a full build and full deploy does the problem go away in the .exe?

By the way, PB 2025 has ultra-fast compiler now and can do incremental builds in as little as seconds and doesn't have the PBL corruption issues of older versions of PB.  You can try it out now (in beta): https://www.appeon.com/developers/pb2025-beta.html

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Gastón Clara
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  1. Friday, 11 October 2024 16:03 PM UTC
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With full build and full deploy, the problem goes away. 

We are getting the error only with Incremental.

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Armeen Mazda @Appeon
  1. Armeen Mazda @Appeon
  2. Friday, 11 October 2024 18:04 PM UTC
Then I recommend to do full build. You might want to try optimizing the PBLs and see if that will allow incremental to work properly.

Also, it would be great if you could take the same source code and try the beta version of PB 2025 see if the new compiler has same problem or not for incremental. We completely rebuilt the compiler from the ground up in PB 2025... you need to select "Solution" to use the new compiler and "Workspace" is the old compiler.
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Chris Pollach @Appeon
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  2. Friday, 11 October 2024 18:50 PM UTC
Hi Gastón;

FYI: When you make some changes to ancestors as in their class definitions, you MUST then perform a Full Build in order to have the Descendant's Class definitions realigned to the upper ancestor(s). The Incremental Build quite often will not go far enough in that class re-building process.

Tip: The best way forward when making various high level ancestor changes, is to use the PB IDE's "Object Browser". From there, open up an inheritance class, select "show the hierarchy", then select "Expand All" and then perform a "regenerate" from the BASE (highest) level ancestor. This technique will *force* realign all the descendants code to the changed ancestor(s).!

I do this all the time in my STD Framework. HTH ;-)

Regards ... Chris
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Gastón Clara
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  1. Monday, 18 November 2024 17:16 PM UTC
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Will use Fullbuild for all the projects. 

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