1. jagamohan dash
  2. PowerBuilder
  3. Thursday, 26 September 2024 19:09 PM UTC

Dear Appeon Team we are using PB2022 R3 Please Please Take care of these mentioned points

1.Can u please add a option to highlight the backcolor of focused column in light green or light blue and keep it back the existing colur or customized color when focus lost(Programaticaly doable but if it is a detail grid Performance is very low) in stead of giving a border high light ,which is not visible in ERP .

2.Our ERP customers are hesitating to upgrade to power client as they are getting instant update against there wills , so Please provide a option in launcher itself to ask for a option Updates are available DO YOU want to Update .please please this is a very much required option .Even as a developer i feel this is required an auto update directly sometimes creating a heavy business loss .

Please Give a patch update or R3 with the above solution please please .

Thank You      

         

jagamohan dash Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Thursday, 10 October 2024 13:28 PM UTC
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  3. # 1

Hi Roland,

Thank you for your prompt response. Since we operate within an ERP system that requires frequent updates, we cannot afford to delay enhancements for as long as 15 days. Could you explore an option similar to Android’s "Updates Available" feature, where users are given the choice to update at their convenience?

Additionally, for critical updates that have a significant impact on functionality or database structure, it would be helpful to include a mandatory or forced update option to ensure compliance with major changes.

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  1. Armeen Mazda @Appeon
  2. Thursday, 10 October 2024 16:56 PM UTC
Jagamohan, I think you misunderstand... this is a community forum and Roland doesn't work for Appeon. I work for Appeon, and I already mentioned to you we have no plans to make the changes you requested. However, it is still good idea for you to log your request in our system. The way to do that is open a support ticket: https://www.appeon.com/standardsupport/newbug

Please open a ticket for each individual bug or enhancement request.... PLEASE DO NOT LUMP BUNCH OF THINGS TOGETHER PLEASE!!!
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  1. David Peace (Powersoft)
  2. Friday, 11 October 2024 15:40 PM UTC
As always Armeen, we will raise any enhancements when we have fully identified the best solution for our business.

Thanks to your team for listening and making the product so much better.

Thanks

David
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  1. Armeen Mazda @Appeon
  2. Friday, 11 October 2024 15:51 PM UTC
Thanks David for being strategic and selective on your requests! We aspire to be a customer-driven company so we do prioritize customer requests, but believe it or not with how many PB customers we have we are just drowning in requests as it is and meanwhile continuing to execute on our ambitious roadmap for PB to completely revamp the product.
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Roland Smith Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Monday, 30 September 2024 14:16 PM UTC
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  3. # 2

If the end users are complaining that the app updates too much, maybe you need to space out your updates. Maybe quarterly or twice a year.

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  1. Armeen Mazda @Appeon
  2. Monday, 30 September 2024 15:18 PM UTC
Adding to what Roland said, it is a mistake in the realm of PB to allow users to reject updates. For example, you've made some modification to database and app update is required so your app works correctly but user rejects it. Or you made some change to a calculation that was wrong before and user rejects it relying on incorrect calculation.
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  1. David Peace (Powersoft)
  2. Friday, 11 October 2024 15:37 PM UTC
Hi Armeen

We will probably want some sort of control on this and here is the reason why. We have multiple customers who have their own separate databases, we do not apply the changes all database together. We will use the Upgraded App to automatically apply any DB changes that are needed, so updating the App will update your database. All this is great for small customers, but some larger customers like to mitigate the risks of updates and test them before rolling to production. I can see the need for a staged approach in some cases.

Having said that you could manage this with multiple deployment URLs but I have not tested that theory.
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jagamohan dash Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Sunday, 29 September 2024 19:38 PM UTC
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  3. # 3

HI Armeen,

               Thanks for a kind response ,but as our all ERP are running on power builder from 20 or more than that ,we always expect we should give a competition to others Framework ERP in market ,the focus colour,dragging and reset column position at run time  and all the basics,it should come with the framework itself ,any how we are managing with alternatives ,but request please take care all these basics if we have to be a market compete .

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jagamohan dash Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Sunday, 29 September 2024 19:30 PM UTC
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  3. # 4

Hi Chris,Thanks it looks great ,but it will be very useful if the process of using the standard framework could be explained too . 

Chris Pollach @Appeon Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Thursday, 26 September 2024 20:01 PM UTC
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  3. # 5

Hi jagamohan;

For #1 ...

   You can have implemented this in any PB App based on using an expression to control the background colour of any column that has focus. If you want to see examples of that, have a look at my STD Framework's OrderEntry demo app. You can see that feature in action and the App user controls the app various colour settings (focus colour being one of them).  For example:

    FYI:  http://chrispollach.blogspot.com/2024/05/2024r2.html

For #2 ...

  FYI: You can control App updates through App versions and assigning them Starting & Ending dates. So for example, if version 1.01 has an ending date of 2024-10-31 and version 1.02 does not start until 2024-11-01 - then you can push out changes to the App under v1.02 and it will not affect current v1.01 app users. You can also control updates using the PS Project Start-up options. For example:

  BTW: There is already an enhancement request for PS App users to receive a prompt message before accepting any App update.

HTH

Regards .. Chris

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  1. Armeen Mazda @Appeon
  2. Thursday, 26 September 2024 21:34 PM UTC
Hi Chris, Regarding #1, Jagamohan already mentioned this can be accomplished through coding; he wanted PB to automatically do it without any coding. And regarding #2, as far as I know there is no plans to allow user to reject an update, which if I understood correctly that's what Jagamohan is requesting.
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  1. Chris Pollach @Appeon
  2. Friday, 27 September 2024 00:03 AM UTC
For sure but it's not simple as you need to give the app user control over various colours as applied themes, windows theme settings, personal visual colour perception, etc can make a real difference on how the app user perceives the "readability" of any app. Just having Appeon automatically assign a focus colour at design time would not really address the above. My framework does. So jagamohan can either use the framework or he's welcome to copy the implementation code for his own use.

We have already had requests to implement the #2 suggestion as well as when a new version is deployed to automatically remove the previous version. However, I have no idea where these enhancements sit in the Engineering queue.
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Armeen Mazda @Appeon Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Thursday, 26 September 2024 19:23 PM UTC
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  3. # 6

Hi Jagamohan,

We have no plans to make any of the changes that you outlined.

I also want to clarify two points:

1. Feature enhancement requests are purely 'requests'.  You will be dissapointed if you expect it to be done quickly, because a) we get way too many requests cannot do them all, and b) even if we do decide to implement your request our cycles are 1-2 years usually.

2. Feature enhancement requests should be submitted to product@appeon.com.  This is a tech Q&A forum to get help with project/programming issues.

Best regards,
Armeen

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