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Resolved Slow DW retrieve compared to actual query

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  1. Bjarne Anker
    Bjarne Anker
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  3. Thursday, 21 December 2017 09:21 AM UTC

Hi.

 

I have a very basic query which selects about 25 columns from 2 tables using inner join and where-statement on one of the indexes (SQL Anywhere 16).

This query returns 19.000 rows and takes 0.04 seconds in Interactive SQL, but almost 5 seconds in the pfc_retrieve() event on the DW.

The profiling tool doesn't have any more detail than this.

No code on the retrieverow() event or other, and no special code in the query itself.

I've tried with setredraw() before and after retrieve, with no significant improvement in performance.

Has anyone an explanation on why the retrieve is so slow compared to the select-statement in Interactive SQL?

Or perhaps there are tips or tricks I can try to speed up the retrieve?

 

Best regards,

 

Bjarne Anker

Maritech Systems

Norway

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John Fauss
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  1. Wednesday, 30 January 2019 01:55 AM UTC
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Have you tried creating a new DataWindow object? I have experienced behavior similar to this once or twice many years ago.

I started trouble-shooting by copying the SQL statement source to the Windows clipboard, then created a new DataWindow, pasting the SQL into it and defining any needed retrieval arguments. Do this and make no changes to the visual layout. If it is feasible, substitute the new DW at this point and run the app, open the appropriate window and retrieve the 19,000 rows.

I'll go out on a limb and predict the retrieval will be quick. If it is, the cause of the issue is something in the original DW which makes the PB DW engine perform poorly. In my case, I slowly and methodically added the formatting, edit styles, visual arrangement, tab order, computed fields, data grouping, etc. to the replacement DW, testing the retrieval performance after every step. It took a while, but eventually I found the item(s) that caused the slow retrieval (it's been far too many years since I did this, so I do not remember the details of what was eventually found to be causing the lethargic retrieval.)

HTH,

John

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Bjarne Anker
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  1. Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:38 PM UTC
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Hi.

 

I will look into that setting. 

But what does it do?

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Chris Pollach @Appeon
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  2. Tuesday, 29 January 2019 20:20 PM UTC
Hi Bjarne;

FWIW: While this can speed up your SQL a little - it can also change its behaviour here & there.

Regards ... Chris
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Roland Smith
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  2. Wednesday, 30 January 2019 01:27 AM UTC
Binding is a feature where an application sends the SQL statement with argument place holders and argument values separately. The database server compiles the SQL statement once so the next time it is executed, it just needs to plop in the arguments. With DisableBind=1, PowerBuilder will send the SQL with the argument values embedded. This means that the database server needs to compile it every time. It would seem that this would actually make it slightly slower. The exact impact would depend on how your server handles this option and whether it is processing the same queries many times a day.
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Ashutosh Varshney
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  1. Tuesday, 29 January 2019 17:11 PM UTC
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Bjarne,

Try setting the disablebind parameter to 1 in your db connectstring -

SQLCA.DBParm="ConnectString ='DSN=Sales;UID=dba;PWD=sql;',DisableBind=1"

Hope this helps

 

 

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Chris Pollach @Appeon
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  1. Monday, 28 January 2019 15:51 PM UTC
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Hi Bjarne;

   FWIW: Computed Columns could be one aspect here that would degrade retrieval performance due to their high over-head.

Regards... Chris

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Vladimir Prochazka
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  1. Monday, 28 January 2019 13:31 PM UTC
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If possible, I recommend moving the query into stored procedure. That should solve your performance issue.

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Clarence Chamorro
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  1. Thursday, 28 December 2017 21:09 PM UTC
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Have you try Retrieve Options -> Rows As Needed. It may help for your application.

Clarence.

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Eduardo G.
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  1. Friday, 22 December 2017 07:52 AM UTC
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Make the retrieve with a datastore then a saveas of the ds and finally an importfile in the datawindow, to have if this way you have greater speed.

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Ronnie Po
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  1. Friday, 22 December 2017 05:26 AM UTC
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How about in the PowerBuilder IDE? If you preview the retrieve in the DataWindow painter, is the performance slow? Is there possibly a DropDownDataWindow that's retrieving automatically at runtime?

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Bjarne Anker
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  2. Friday, 22 December 2017 09:00 AM UTC
I takes no time at all in the IDE (0.3 secs perhaps).



 



Bjarne

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Chris Pollach @Appeon
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  1. Thursday, 21 December 2017 14:21 PM UTC
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Hi Bjarne;

  Besides Roland's advise, please make sure that your DW Control does not have any code (even a comment) in the RetrieveRow Event ... that would include any ancestors as well. This can slow down any DWO's retrieval performance exponentially.

Regards ... Chris

 

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Bjarne Anker
  1. Bjarne Anker
  2. Friday, 22 December 2017 09:06 AM UTC
Hi.



 



I've triplechecked, and there is absolutely no code on any event (besides pfc_addrow, pfc_insertrow and pfd_initrow).



There is an expression on the backgroundcolor (active/inactive), but is has no impact.



I've also created a brand new DW with the exact same select, and it runs just as slow.



I also created an n_ds (datastore), assigned the same DW-object and the retrive takes 3.9 secs vs 4.1 secs.



So there is definitely something weird going on here.



Most of our other DW's works just fine, so I'm a bit curios in why this one acts up like this. :)



 



Regards,



 



Bjarne

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Roland Smith
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  1. Thursday, 21 December 2017 13:56 PM UTC
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Create a small one window non-pfc app that connects to the database and retrieves the DataWindow. See how long it takes.

Does the DataWindow have any drop-down DataWindows on it? Are there any functions called from a computed field or expression that has embedded SQL in it?

 

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