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Resolved PB 2025 PBNative source control (unsupported?)

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  1. Steen Jakobsen
    Steen Jakobsen
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  3. Saturday, 19 October 2024 06:25 AM UTC

Hi,

Is it correct that PB Native Source Control is not supported when using the new compiler.

If is there a step-by-step description (or video much more preferred) on how to set op PB with GIT source control ?

 

Also, will there be another beta drop ? if so when ?

 

Thanks

 Steen

 

ps. I think the feature set of PB 2025 is quite impressive and most relevant - Good job Appeon - Thank you :-)

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Steen Jakobsen
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  1. Sunday, 27 October 2024 05:41 AM UTC
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Armeen I get your point. And I can understand. We will move from NativeSCC to GIT.

Just not right now. and Not in the first beta cycle also because of the windows 11 issue that is blocking.

 

Thank you for an amazing new path for PB in 2025. Well done.

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Armeen Mazda @Appeon
  1. Armeen Mazda @Appeon
  2. Monday, 28 October 2024 17:25 PM UTC
That makes sense... is prudent way to upgrade so not too many moving parts and then disaster happens. Just keep in mind that you can move forward with PB 2025 and still use NativeSCC... you just need to stay with PBLs instead of the new Solution type. But you can still benefit from the revamped code editor and other new features we added even though you use PBLs. All you basically lose is the fast compilation if stay with PBLs.
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Roland Smith
  1. Roland Smith
  2. Monday, 28 October 2024 19:08 PM UTC
The main application I work on has over 14,000 objects in 80 libraries. The PB IDE cannot Full Rebuild our app. We have to use PowerGen to build PBLs from source control. We use GIT but not connected to PowerBuilder. We use manually created work libraries and then export them to the repository folder. Then we use GIT tools or Visual Studio to commit the change. I tried it in 2025 and both Workspace and Solution are unable to clear all compile errors.
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Armeen Mazda @Appeon
  1. Armeen Mazda @Appeon
  2. Tuesday, 29 October 2024 14:29 PM UTC
Hi Roland, If PB IDE cannot build your app, I would recommend open a support ticket if you can provide your source code and we can sign NDA with your company. Our engineers will work through it to see if something wrong with the PBLs or the compiler, and we work to remedy the situation. Of course if you are happy with PBLs and PowerGen then great, but if you want to move to Solution then we will help you get there.

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Roland Smith
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  1. Monday, 21 October 2024 16:57 PM UTC
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Not supporting SCC API for solution mode seems arbitrary, there is no technical reason why it couldn't be supported. It should be simpler than for workspace mode.

Appeon is obviously spending a lot of development time on the new solution mode. Blocking a large number of customers from using it seems short sighted. They aren't going to switch source code providers just to use solution mode.

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Armeen Mazda @Appeon
  1. Armeen Mazda @Appeon
  2. Monday, 21 October 2024 19:18 PM UTC
Hi Roland, many PB customers are moving to Git/SVN or already moved. We also have concerns that by the time most customers upgrade to PB 2025 that could be years out and this trend has further progressed. For the laggards that after so many years are happy to use legacy source control systems, there is still option to stay with PBLs. In other words, we haven't taken anything away, but when we invest to add new features we have to do that based on where things will go not where they have been in the past. It's compromise we hate to make because we know it won't make everybody happy but our resources aren't unlimited so it's necessary to do.
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Chris Pollach @Appeon
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  1. Saturday, 19 October 2024 11:43 AM UTC
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Hi Steven;

  Correct. You would need to stay with a Workspace vs a Solution in order to remain with the native SCM feature.

  For using GIT ...

https://docs.appeon.com/pb2022/pbug/Using_Git_source_control_system.html

  Yes, I am sure that there will be more beta drops coming in the future. There is not set schedule for these at the moment.

Regards ... Chris 

  

 

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