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Resolved Who is using PowerBuilder with SQL Anywhere? Future of SQL Anywhere?

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  1. Heiko Betzler
    Heiko Betzler
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  3. Friday, 19 January 2024 09:36 AM UTC

Hello everyone,

we have been using PowerBuilder together with SQL Anyhwere for over 20 years. For some years now in version 17.

Unfortunately, we cannot find any information about the further development of SQL Anywhere by SAP and when a possible version 18 could be released.

 

1. Are we part of a minority who still use PowerBuilder with SQL Anywhere? Are there any other companies that use PowerBuilder with SQL Anywhere?

2. Does anyone (or Appeon) have any information about the future of SQL Anywhere and what SAP is planning in this direction?

 

That would be very interesting for us to know.

 

Have a nice weekend everyone.

Best regards

Heiko

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Chris Keating
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  1. Wednesday, 21 February 2024 01:45 AM UTC
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SQL Anywhere development was not let go 5 years ago. SQL Anywhere development remains in Waterloo- I am still working in Waterloo. SQLA is used in a number of SAP products - including legacy Sybase products as well as SAP products.

SQLA plays a key part in SAP IQ and SAP IQ development has had resources in Waterloo for a long time. There was an office closed about 5 years ago that impacted IQ development. That development was transferred to Waterloo.  There is also an ASE footprint in Waterloo. 

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Chris Pollach @Appeon
  1. Chris Pollach @Appeon
  2. Wednesday, 21 February 2024 02:45 AM UTC
Hi Chris;

Thanks for chiming in ... It's nice to hear from you again!

However, after 5 years ... where is ASE V17? Where is SA V18?

Can you share an ASE & SA release schedule? How about a confirmed road map for each DBMS? I think that you need to bolster these customers confidence after this long silence. ASE & SA customers need to be confident that these products "are" really moving forward (IMHO).

Regards ... Chris
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Armeen Mazda @Appeon
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  1. Monday, 22 January 2024 17:34 PM UTC
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I can't give you exact metrics because SQL Anywhere is not Appeon's product, but we have many PB customers that are using SQL Anywhere as their database.  I would say after SQL Server and Oracle, SQL Anywhere is 3rd most common database among Appeon customers.  Perhaps this is why SAP has not made an discontinuation announcement... way too many people using it currently to pull the rug out from underneath them?

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Steve Sagodi
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  1. Monday, 22 January 2024 16:56 PM UTC
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We bundle SQLAnywhere with our software and are an OEM partner with SAP.  We haven't received any notification from them, but haven't been able to get any clear answers either from SAP on their plans for SQLAnywhere.

cheers,

Steve

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Kevin Ridley
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  1. Monday, 22 January 2024 16:21 PM UTC
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It's a shame, one of the best lightweight db's ever IMO.  I've already converted most of my older SQLAnywhere apps to Postgres.  The ones I converted were small business apps though.

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Chris Pollach @Appeon
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  2. Monday, 22 January 2024 16:44 PM UTC
Hi Kevin... A smart move IMHO. ;-)
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Simone Olianti
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  1. Monday, 22 January 2024 15:09 PM UTC
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We are in the same situation. Using Sql Anywhere in our ERP software and now we are a little worried about this news

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Heiko Betzler
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  1. Monday, 22 January 2024 06:46 AM UTC
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Hello André,

thanks for your answer and the interesting link to the SAP forum.

We are in the same situation as you: we are also OEM-Partner (of SQL Anywhere) located in Germany. In recent months, we have increasingly tried to contact SAP. We have not yet received any news from SAP.

We hope that SAP will take a path that makes sense for all of us.

Best regards

Heiko

 

 

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André Monz
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  1. Friday, 19 January 2024 12:01 PM UTC
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Hi Heiko,

we use SQL Anywhere in our ERP Software, we are SAP "Oempartner".
A few days ago we received an email from SAP (OEMPARTNER@sap.com) announcing the end of SQL Anwyhere.
See also https://sqlanywhere-forum.sap.com/questions/39190/migration-tool-sql-anywhere-to-postgres

Gruß
André

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Chris Pollach @Appeon
  1. Chris Pollach @Appeon
  2. Monday, 22 January 2024 15:56 PM UTC
Hi Heiko;

Yes, the writing has been on the wall for the past 5 years. SA DBMS was designed & supported here in Waterloo, Ontario, Canada. All the engineering team was let go 5 years ago ( I knew some of them) and only barebones technical support staff were left at that point. SAP's focus is Hana since they bought out Sybase. I would even wonder where the ASE roadmap is? It's a real shame as ASE & SA were "top notch" DBMS in there day but no longer being developed <sad>.
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Roland Smith
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  2. Monday, 22 January 2024 18:33 PM UTC
You have to wonder why SAP bought Sybase in the first place. It certainly wasn't PowerBuilder and ASE sales are so small they don't even get onto the charts. Perhaps the messaging network Sybase 365?
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Tobias Roth
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  2. Wednesday, 31 January 2024 03:24 AM UTC
I think I heard that it was primarily about the synchronization/Mobilink technology. But that could just be rumors.

The fact is that since the release of SA17, there has been no significant further feature development and only maintenance of the software.

Until this is clarified, all customers will unfortunately remain uncertain, and for me personally, SAP has now lost a lot of trust for the time being.
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