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Resolved WebSphere PowerServer licensing

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  1. bill vignola
    bill vignola
  2. PowerServer 2020 or older (Obsolete)
  3. Wednesday, 17 October 2018 21:12 PM UTC

A given WebSphere server typically has many "profiles" with each typically configured on different ports. PowerServer Web licensing states that it's "per server" so can I assume I can install PowerServer war on each profile and have it count as a single server? I assume the total "user sessions" allowed would then be the sum of the total users connected to all of the profiles.

TIA,

Sean

 

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Light Zhao
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  1. Thursday, 18 October 2018 05:39 AM UTC
  2. PowerServer 2020 or older (Obsolete)
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Hi Sean,

 

Only one single PowerServer can be installed on WebSphere server. When installing PowerServer, profiles will be listed for you to select and only one is allowed to be selected, based on this profile, PowerServer will generate some useful data, that’s to say, simply installing ear (NOT war) file on profile won’t work.

 

Hope above clarifies.  

 

Regards,

Light Zhao

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bill vignola
  1. bill vignola
  2. Thursday, 18 October 2018 12:35 PM UTC
Hi Light,



That's a big issue for us. WebSphere profiles are like databases on SQL Server - it's very common to have many databases on a single server or in the case of WebSphere many profiles on a single WebSphere server. For a given release we have Dev, Int, Test, Stage and Prod. At any point in time we have may have several releases in development so it's not uncommon for us to have dozens of profiles on a single WebSphere server. The licensing for WebSphere should be at the server level and not at the profile level.



Ideally we would want a "license server" that would dynamically allocate "user sessions" on a single server to profiles using an "on demand" model. At a minimum we need the ability to manually configure the number of user sessions per profile based on an overall pool of users sessions for a given server. Without this ability it would be an absolute show stopper for us since a PowerServer minimum "profile" configuration of $5k for 50 users would easily exceed $100k per server.



Thanks,

Sean
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bill vignola
  1. bill vignola
  2. Thursday, 18 October 2018 16:27 PM UTC
You may want to look at how IBM licenses WebSphere. They base it on server PVU (processor value unit) and not on how many profiles you have installed on that server. The PVU takes into consideration the processor generation, cores, speed, etc. in order to calculate the potential workload that a server can handle.
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Light Zhao
  1. Light Zhao
  2. Friday, 19 October 2018 02:05 AM UTC
Hi Sean,

Sorry to let you know that we are currently at the profile level. Our licensing is designed to count the # of concurrent users, so even we redesign and allow customer to install multiple instances on WebSphere, with a large number of users the cost won't change. If you are interested in understanding pricing, please reach out to sales-ps@appeon.com. Thanks.

Regards,

Light Zhao
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