1. Russell Jaynes
  2. PowerBuilder
  3. Thursday, 29 March 2018 12:19 PM UTC

We are transitioning to Windows 10 and some clients have a two minute lag just starting an application.  Windows 7 was slow startup but two minutes is getting crazy.  exe and pbds are local

Chris Pollach @Appeon Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Thursday, 29 March 2018 13:52 PM UTC
  2. PowerBuilder
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Hi Russell;

     I have dozens of PB App EXE's built from PB version 12..1  =>  2017 R2 and have been running on W10 PC's now for 4 years with no such issues. I suspect that its something that is localized to your PC's environment.

 

 Can you check your EXE's at W10 start-up, as follows:

1) Open Task Manager

2) Use RHMB on your APP & then select "Go To Details" ...

 

3) Now use the RHMB on your App's EXE and select the "Analyze Wait Chain" option ...

Hopefully, that will point you to something that explains your excessive start-up times.

HTH

Regards ... Chris

 

 

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  1. Russell Jaynes
  2. Thursday, 29 March 2018 14:25 PM UTC
Well that is some interesting stuff there Chris, thanks.



As I watch it thru startup, the wait chain says waiting for one or more I/O tasks till it opens then says running fine.



The only I/O I know it is doing is checking for self updates from a shared drive....something to look at least.



 

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  1. Roland Smith
  2. Thursday, 29 March 2018 15:03 PM UTC
I have a free self updater tool. It checks for updates in a background thread and downloads files to a temp area. They get copied to the install folder when the app closes. See PBUpdater on this page:



http://www.topwizprogramming.com/tools.html



Also check to see if the Anti-virus is scanning PBD files.



 

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  1. Russell Jaynes
  2. Thursday, 29 March 2018 16:09 PM UTC
I will check it out, but heck our updater has been working for a decade



 

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Georgios Papageorgiou Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Thursday, 29 March 2018 13:00 PM UTC
  2. PowerBuilder
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I would look for Antimalware/realtime virusscanning .

I have several programs on my SSD i7 computer starting up REALLY PITA SLOW (i.e MS SQL Management Studio / word / excel )

However my PowerBuilder is behaving ok

Regards

Georgios

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  1. Russell Jaynes
  2. Thursday, 29 March 2018 13:23 PM UTC
Interesting, we are opposite, other apps open fine, excel/word. but powerbuilder slow.



As I mentioned above, the sys admins have some mcafee doing something so will look at this.  DO we know if Appeon 17 r2 VM has a signature certified by appeon...maybe that is what is killing us.

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Marco Meoni Accepted Answer Pending Moderation
  1. Thursday, 29 March 2018 12:33 PM UTC
  2. PowerBuilder
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Hello,

please give us some additional info on what the application is supposed to do in those 2 minutes.

Is it just Win7 vs Win10 or, e.g., did you change any driver to the DB server?

Do you have an antivirus/contentfilter that interferes on the Win10 machine?

Best,

Marco

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  1. Russell Jaynes
  2. Thursday, 29 March 2018 13:20 PM UTC
The new windows 10 baseline has a thousand changes....I am not sys admin so not sure what they have running exactly.



 



Truely the app is doing what it always did, connect to database, was oracle 11g with 11 client, now to 11g with 12 client, then opening frame window.



I see nothing in task manager till app starts, I have no idea what it is doing for that two minutes of nothingness....user will click to open 5 more times and get 6 openings.



 



They have some mcafee running, will evaluate what they are actually doing with it.



 

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