The ribbonbar below will generate OK but will only display the titles fully when it has about 1/4 of the space taken up by the category text on the right as white space.
Removing the tab section improved this a little (we were not using the tabs anyway)
The font size influences the space required but not the relative space proportion.
Stock Control is the fullest category and only goes out as far as Works Orders (3/4 of the total category header size)
Why is it needing so much whitespace?
I can't find any options or editor controls to alter the appearance or size of this wasted space. Anyone got an idea how to change it?
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?>
<RibbonBar BuiltinTheme="0" Font="FaceName:Tahoma; FontCharSet:ansi!; TextSize:8" >
<RibbonItems >
<ApplicationButton Text="File" Enabled="true" Tag="MyApp" Visible="true" >
<ApplicationMenu>
<Master>
<Item Text="Set Default &Printer" PictureName="PrintSetupBig!" Checked="false" Enabled="true" Tag="Default Printer" Type="0" Visible="true" Clicked="ue_File_SetDefaultPrinterClicked" Selected="ue_File_SetDefaultPrinterClicked"/>
<Item Type="1" Visible="true"/>
<Item Text="E&xit" PictureName="CloseBig!" Checked="false" Enabled="true" Tag="Close" Type="0" Shortcut="Ctrl+x" Visible="true" Clicked="ue_File_CloseSelected" Selected="ue_File_CloseSelected" />
</Master>
<Recent Title="Recent Items">
</Recent>
</ApplicationMenu>
</ApplicationButton>
<Categories >
<Category Text="Data" Enabled="true" Tag="Data maintenance" Visible="true">
<Panel PictureName="ActionsBig!" Enabled="true" Tag="Tabs" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Main Data" PictureName="ActionsBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Customers" PowerTipDescription="Customer Maintenace" Tag="Main Data" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Other Data" PictureName="TableOfContentsBig!" Enabled="true" Tag="Other Data" Visible="true">
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
<Panel Text="R&eports" PictureName="ActionsSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="Actions" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="&Lists" PictureName="OpenBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="true" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Data List Reports" PowerTipDescription="Data List Reports" Tag="Data List Reports" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Customer Contact &Follow-up" PictureName="HRBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Contacts" PowerTipDescription="Contacts" Tag="w_remstat" Visible="true" Clicked="ue_data_reports_customercontact_click" />
<LargeButton Text="Customer Round Position Summary" PictureName="ReportsBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Round Positions" PowerTipDescription="Round Positions" Tag="Round Positions" Visible="true" Clicked="ue_data_reports_roundpossum_click" />
</Panel>
<Panel Enabled="true" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Find Function" PictureName="Find1!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Find Function" PowerTipDescription="Find Function" Tag="w_listcrnd" Visible="true" Clicked="ue_findfunction_click" />
</Panel>
</Category>
<Category Text="Ordering" Enabled="true" Tag="Order Processing" Visible="true" >
<Panel Text="" PictureName="OrdersBig!" Enabled="true" Tag="Order Processing">
<LargeButton Text="Daily Ordering" PictureName="OrdersBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Daily Ordering" PowerTipDescription="Daily Ordering" Tag="w_ordering" Visible="true" Clicked="ue_ordering_dailyordering_click"/>
<LargeButton Text="Delivery Notes" PictureName="Print1!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Delivery Notes" PowerTipDescription="Delivery Notes" Tag="w_delnotes" Visible="true" Clicked="ue_ordering_deliverynotes_click"/>
<LargeButton Text="Order Processing" PictureName="OrderReportBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Order Processing" PowerTipDescription="Order Processing" Tag="Order Processing" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="View Orders" PictureName="How1!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="View Orders" PowerTipDescription="View Orders" Tag="View Orders" Visible="true">
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Order Maintenance" PictureName="AccountSettingsBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="View Orders" PowerTipDescription="View Orders" Tag="View Orders" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Van Orders" PictureName=".\Images\smalltruck.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Van Orders" PowerTipDescription="Van Orders" Tag="Export Van Deliveries" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Reports" PictureName="CustomerBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="View Orders" PowerTipDescription="View Orders" Shortcut="Ctrl+R" Tag="View Orders" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
</Category>
<Category Text="Production" Enabled="true" Tag="Product Creation" Visible="true">
<Panel Text="" PictureName="ZoomSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="Zoom" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Production Array" PictureName="Custom097a!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Production Array" PowerTipDescription="Production Array" Tag="Production Array" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Production Reports" PictureName="OrderReportBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Production Reports" PowerTipDescription="Production Reports" Tag="Production Reports" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
</Category>
<Category Text="Accounts" Enabled="true" Tag="Customer Accounts" Visible="true">
<Panel Text="Accounts" PictureName="ZoomSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="Zoom" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Customer Accounts" PictureName="CustomerBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Customer Accounts" PowerTipDescription="Customer Accounts" Shortcut="Ctrl+A" Tag="w_accounts" Visible="true" Clicked="ue_Accounts_CustomerAccounts_click"/>
<LargeButton Text="Allocate Transactions" PictureName=".\Images\allocate.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Allocate Transactions" PowerTipDescription="Allocate Transactions" Tag="w_alloc" Visible="true" Clicked="ue_Accounts_allocatetrans_click" />
<LargeButton Text="Find Transaction" PictureName="FindBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Find Transaction" PowerTipDescription="Find Transaction" Tag="w_findtran" Visible="true" Clicked="ue_Accounts_FindTrans_click" />
</Panel>
<Panel Text="Invoices" PictureName="ZoomSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="Invoices" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Invoices" PictureName=".\Images\invoices.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Invoices" PowerTipDescription="Invoices" Tag="Invoices" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Credits and Extras" PictureName=".\Images\balance.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Credits and Extras" PowerTipDescription="Credits and Extras" Tag="Credits and Extras" Visible="true">
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
<Panel Visible="true" Text="Other Data" Enabled="true" Tag="Other Data" >
<LargeButton Text="Export Accounts" PictureName="Export1!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Export Accounts" PowerTipDescription="Export Accounts" Tag="Export Accounts" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Discounts" PictureName=".\Images\discount.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Discounts" PowerTipDescription="Discounts" Tag="Discounts" Visible="true">
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Other" PictureName="Retrieve!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Other" PowerTipDescription="Other" Tag="Other" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Reports" PictureName="OrderReportBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Reports" PowerTipDescription="Reports" Tag="Reports" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
</Category>
<Category Text="Recipes" Enabled="true" Tag="Recipes and Ingredients" Visible="true">
<Panel Text="Ingredients And Suppliers" PictureName="ZoomSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="Zoom" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Ingredients" PictureName="InsertRow!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="true" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Ingredientss" PowerTipDescription="Ingredients" Tag="Ingredients" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Suppliers" PictureName="CustomerBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="true" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Suppliers" PowerTipDescription="Suppliers" Tag="Suppliers" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Recipe Costing" PictureName=".\Images\rcpcst.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Recipe Costing" PowerTipDescription="Recipe Costing" Tag="w_process" Visible="true" Clicked="ue_Recipe_Costing_click" />
</Panel>
<Panel Text="Technical Data" PictureName="ZoomSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="Zoom" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Technical Specifications" PictureName="AccountSettingsBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Technical Specifications" PowerTipDescription="Technical Specifications" Tag="Technical Specifications" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Health and Safety" PictureName="CheckStatus1!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Health and Safety" PowerTipDescription="Health and Safety" Tag="Health and Safety" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
</Category>
<Category Text="Pricing" Enabled="true" Tag="Stock Prices" Visible="true">
<Panel Text="" PictureName="ZoomSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="Zoom" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="View" PictureName="Find1!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="true" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="View" PowerTipDescription="View" Tag="View" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Prices" PictureName=".\Images\cash.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="true" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Prices" PowerTipDescription="Prices" Tag="Prices" Visible="true">
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Discounts" PictureName=".\Images\discount.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="true" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Discounts" PowerTipDescription="Discounts" Tag="Discounts" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Update" PictureName="Update2!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="true" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Update" PowerTipDescription="Update" Tag="Update" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Reports" PictureName="OrderReportBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="true" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Reports" PowerTipDescription="Reports" Tag="Reports" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
</Category>
<Category Text="Stock Control" Enabled="true" Tag="Stock Control" Visible="true" >
<Panel Text="Purchasing" PictureName="" Enabled="true" Tag="Zoom" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Purchasing" PictureName=".\Images\purch.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="true" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Purchasing" PowerTipDescription="Purchasing" Tag="Purchasing" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Purchase Invoice Matching" PictureName="CompareBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Purchase Invoice Matching" PowerTipDescription="Purchase Invoice Matching" Tag="Purchase Invoice Matching" Visible="true">
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
<Panel Text="Stock" PictureName="ZoomSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="Zoom" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Stock Costs and Locations" PictureName="Custom037a!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Stock Costs and Locations" PowerTipDescription="Stock Costs and Locations" Tag="Stock Costs and Locations" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Production Sheets" PictureName="AccountingNumberFormatBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Production Sheets" PowerTipDescription="Production Sheets" Tag="Production Sheets" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Stock Adjust" PictureName="AlignBottomBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="true" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Stock Adjust" PowerTipDescription="Stock Adjust" Tag="Stock Adjust" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Delivery And Baskets" PictureName=".\Images\smalltruck.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Delivery And Baskets" PowerTipDescription="Delivery And Baskets" Tag="Delivery And Baskets" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Scales Link" PictureName=".\Images\balance.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Scales Link" PowerTipDescription="Scales Link" Tag="Scales Link" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Trace And Conform" PictureName="Custom062!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Trace And Conform" PowerTipDescription="Trace And Conform" Tag="Trace And Conform" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Reports" PictureName="ProductReportBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Reports" PowerTipDescription="Reports" Tag="Reports" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
</Category>
<Category Text="Works Orders" Enabled="true" Tag="Works Orders" Visible="true">
<Panel Text="Production" PictureName="" Enabled="true" Tag="Zoom" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Production" PictureName=".\Images\factory.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Production" PowerTipDescription="Production" Tag="Production" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Planning and Analysis" PictureName="FindBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Planning and Analysis" PowerTipDescription="Planning and Analysis" Tag="Planning and Analysis" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
<Panel Text="Resources" PictureName="ZoomSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="Zoom" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Resources And Schedules" PictureName=".\Images\tasklist.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Resources And Schedules" PowerTipDescription="Resources And Schedules" Tag="Resources And Schedules" Visible="true">
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Pallets" PictureName=".\Images\wooden-pallet.jpg" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Pallets" PowerTipDescription="Pallets" Tag="Pallets" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
</Category>
<Category Text="Management" Enabled="true" Tag="Management" Visible="true">
<Panel Text="Sales" PictureName="ZoomSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="Zoom" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Figures" PictureName="CalculateBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Figures" PowerTipDescription="Figures" Tag="Figures" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Value" PictureName=".\Images\cash.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Value" PowerTipDescription="Value" Tag="Value" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Analysis" PictureName="FindBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Analysis" PowerTipDescription="Analysis" Tag="Analysis" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
<Panel Text="Contribution / Reconcilliation" PictureName="" Enabled="true" Tag="Contribution" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Contribution Reports" PictureName=".\Images\balance.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Contribution Reports" PowerTipDescription="Contribution Reports" Tag="Contribution Reports" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Other Reports" PictureName="ReportsBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Other Reports" PowerTipDescription="Other Reports" Tag="Other Reports" Visible="true">
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Van Reports" PictureName=".\Images\smalltruck.png" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Van Reports" PowerTipDescription="Van Reports" Tag="Van Reports" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
</Category>
<Category Text="E.D.I." Enabled="true" Tag="E.D.I. Orders and Invoices" Visible="true">
<Panel Text="" PictureName="ZoomSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Send / Receive" PictureName="RecycleBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Send / Receive" PowerTipDescription="Send / Receive" Tag="Send / Receive" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Set-Up" PictureName="AccountSettingsBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Set-Up" PowerTipDescription="Set-Up" Tag="Set-Up" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Edit and Report" PictureName="Report1!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Edit and Report" PowerTipDescription="Edit and Report" Tag="Edit and Report" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
</Category>
<Category Text="Web" Enabled="true" Tag="Web and Mobile Ordering" Visible="true">
<Panel Text="EPOS" PictureName="ZoomSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="EPOS Settings" PictureName="AccountSettingsBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="EPOS Settings" PowerTipDescription="EPOS Settings" Tag="EPOS Settings" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="EPOS Import / Export" PictureName="RecycleBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="EPOS Import / Export" PowerTipDescription="EPOS Import / Export" Tag="EPOS Import / Export" Visible="true">
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
<Panel Text="Web Portal" PictureName="ZoomSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Web Set Up Basic" PictureName="PropertiesBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Web Set Up Basic" PowerTipDescription="Web Set Up Basic" Tag="Web Set Up Basic" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Web Set Up Advanced" PictureName="Custom033a!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Web Set Up Advanced" PowerTipDescription="Web Set Up Advanced" Tag="Web Set Up Advanced" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="View Orders" PictureName="ZoomBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="View Orders" PowerTipDescription="View Orders" Tag="View Orders" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Reports" PictureName="ProductReportBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Reports" PowerTipDescription="Reports" Tag="Reports" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
</Category>
<Category Text="System" Enabled="true" Tag="System" Visible="true">
<Panel Text="" PictureName="ZoomSmall!" Enabled="true" Tag="" Visible="true">
<LargeButton Text="Menus and Buttons" PictureName="CommandButton!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Menus and Buttons" PowerTipDescription="Menus and Buttons" Tag="Menus and Buttons" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="System Settings" PictureName="AccountSettingsBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="System Settings" PowerTipDescription="System Settings" Tag="System Settings" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Data Settings" PictureName="DBAdmin!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Data Settings" PowerTipDescription="Data Settings" Tag="Data Settings" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Data Maintenance" PictureName="PropertiesBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Data Maintenance" PowerTipDescription="Data Maintenance" Tag="Data Maintenance" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Batch Processing" PictureName="ActionsBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Batch Processing" PowerTipDescription="Batch Processing" Tag="Batch Processing" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
<LargeButton Text="Access Control" PictureName="LockBig!" Checked="false" DefaultCommand="false" Enabled="true" PowerTipText="Access Control" PowerTipDescription="Access Control" Tag="Access Control" Visible="true" >
</LargeButton>
</Panel>
</Category>
</Categories>
</RibbonItems>
</RibbonBar>
image file of how it builds in the builder.
Thanks for your confirmation!