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Resolved Debug on client environment without internet connexion

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  1. Pierre DETE
    Pierre DETE
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  3. Tuesday, 5 November 2019 13:33 PM UTC

Hello,

We need to debug on client environment. Client doesn't want to open it's VM machine on internet.

So we need to install Powerbuilder and offline license doesn't work on VM. How to do?

Eval version is no more availabale for 2017 R3...

Any idea?

Thx

Is there a "Penetration Test Report" for Powerbuil...
PowerClient more that one app in same PC
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Eric Glenn
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  1. Monday, 7 February 2022 17:22 PM UTC
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In cloud computing, the only option is a virtual machine. (me)

For some organizations, an internet connection is an unacceptable vector for a security breach. (Also me)

It is unfortunate that PowerBuilder requires an internet connection to activate a license.

I'm sure there are clever folks that can figure out a way to accommodate us poor souls in licensing purgatory. wink

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Miguel Leeuwe
  1. Miguel Leeuwe
  2. Monday, 7 February 2022 17:50 PM UTC
Hi Eric,

I know, some companies have strict policies for their users. A bit ironic though, that if a company doesn't want to allow internet connections, they still decide to put everything on the cloud. (which needs an internet connection).

regards.
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Eric Glenn
  1. Eric Glenn
  2. Monday, 7 February 2022 19:34 PM UTC
Some companies have cloud environments that are not hosted on or connected to the internet.
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Miguel Leeuwe
  1. Miguel Leeuwe
  2. Tuesday, 8 February 2022 07:02 AM UTC
You mean like "an intranet"? I guess there's more than one definition of what's to be understood as "cloud" then.

regards.
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Miguel Leeuwe
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  1. Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:17 PM UTC
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Agree with Chris:

Banks have enough money !

But ... if they're stingy or no authorisation is easily achieved and you only need it for a short period, they could also download a trial version for PB2019. Migrate your application and then Debug it. Not exactly the same behaviour as pb2017, but at least you can see some debugging.

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Chris Pollach @Appeon
  1. Chris Pollach @Appeon
  2. Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:10 PM UTC
Unfortunately, the "trial" version requires an internet connection as an on-line license is the only one supported on that edition.
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Miguel Leeuwe
  1. Miguel Leeuwe
  2. Tuesday, 5 November 2019 19:17 PM UTC
Well, it's a bank, so that leave the only option (except for /pbdebug)

:)
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Chris Pollach @Appeon
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  1. Tuesday, 5 November 2019 17:12 PM UTC
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Hi Mike;

  That is a good & prudent suggestion ... have the Bank buy and install a local PB IDE for on-site support purposes.

Regards ... Chris

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Miguel Leeuwe
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  1. Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:27 PM UTC
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If it's not a lot of debugging you need to do, you might consider /PBDEBUG on the executable execution.

Roland's figured out a way to activate it while running your application, so that you can only debug the part you want to. If not it might take hours before you only get to the point where you want to debug anything.

http://www.topwizprogramming.com/freecode_pbdebug.html

 

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Armeen Mazda @Appeon
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  1. Tuesday, 5 November 2019 16:04 PM UTC
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On virtualized environment (e.g. VMWare) you can only use "online" license type.  Offline license type is not supported, which is why you do not see option.  If your virtualized environment does not have Internet connection, please contact license@appeon.com to see what workaround they can offer you.

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mike S
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  1. Tuesday, 5 November 2019 14:23 PM UTC
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if the client isn't allowing you the option to use a vpn, then they  acknowledge that will have to spend more money on travel.  after all, the point of the vpn is to allow remote network access.

so, have them pay for your travel to their site.  or buy a PB license and install on a non-vm machine ( i assume they will provide a remote desktop type of access?) if they have access to your source code.

 

 

I go through this a fair bit with customers, and usually they end up providing vpn access when they are presented with the alternative of spending thousands.  the guy saying that they will not provide vpn usually reports to the person that signs the checks.

 

 

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Pierre DETE
  1. Pierre DETE
  2. Tuesday, 5 November 2019 14:31 PM UTC
VPN is not acceptable for them at all. We already have book the travel to their site.

It's a Bank with high security restrictions.

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mike S
  1. mike S
  2. Tuesday, 5 November 2019 14:42 PM UTC
Yes, In that case your options are limited.



It sounds like you do have some level of remote access since you mentioned installing PB on a VM? Have them buy a PC just for your use and also buy a copy of PB to install on that machine so you can do offline license?
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